Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Share and discuss successes you've had. What or who has helped you to win a dispute? What else could we provide to help others successfully complain? It is time to hit-back and obtain the rights that all other consumers have.
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Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Post by Jimmy Justice » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:26 pm

If yes, please do share and discuss successes you've had.

Bookies and regulators have ensured that winning any dispute for the customer is very difficult. Basically, everything is biased against you, even the so called independent alternative dispute resolution organisations are not independent, as much and sometimes all of their funding comes from bookmakers - whoops!

So, if you have won; what did you do? What or who helped you to win a dispute? What else could we provide to help others successfully complain and win?

Punters deserve the same rights as all other consumers, so let's help them win. It's time to hit-back.

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Re: Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Post by Hit6300 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:55 pm

Jimmy,
Do You have real history/information(not from www/internet) about players from EU/UK, who really sued the bookmaker and won ?

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Re: Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Post by Jimmy Justice » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:22 am

Yes.

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Re: Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Post by Hit6300 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:27 pm

If this is not a trade secret, can you write more details, please ? 8-)

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Re: Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Post by Jimmy Justice » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:41 am

The vast majority of people who wins disputes during a court process have to sign what we call a 'non-disclosure agreement', which is a legal document whereby the bookmaker can sue the person if they reveal any details of their case and any payment settlement in public. This means I can only give you an example loosely based on a case.

Firstly you need to note that gambling companies rarely, if ever, appear in court to defend their actions. There's only a tiny number of cases. So, all our cases have been settled out of court, i.e. before the court day.

What follows is fairly common:

We'll call the customer Elizabeth. We'll call the company BetDick.

Elizabeth bets in BetDick's casino, she wins and tries to withdraw her money. BetDick ask for documents proving her identitiy. She does this, but BetDick keep asking for more and more documents. She eventually refuses as BetDick ask for a bank statement countersigned by a lawyer.

Elizabeth then makes a complaint to the UK Gambling Commission. They do nothing to help her. She then makes a complaint to the dispute resolution organisation chosen by BetDick. They rule after 90 days that Elizabth must provide the countersigned document. She again says no and submits a small claim in the English courts.

BetDick contest the claim and get their lawyers to frighten her. She is lucky as she afford her own barrister, so he replies. They get a court date of 24-01-2018. Three days before the court date Elizabeth gets an email from BetDick's lawyers saying BetDick has instructed them not to turn up in court and she will be paid the money owed.

We see this fairly frequently.

I hope this helps?

JJ

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Re: Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Post by Hit6300 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:18 pm

I hope this helps?
Not really.
I write later.

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Re: Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Post by Hit6300 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:47 pm

The vast majority of people who wins disputes during a court process have to sign what we call a 'non-disclosure agreement', which is a legal document whereby the bookmaker can sue the person if they reveal any details of their case and any payment settlement in public. This means I can only give you an example loosely based on a case.
You mean - court process only in UK ?
'non-disclosure agreement' - determined by the laws only of the UK ?
Elizabeth - is UK citizen ?
countersigned by a lawyer.
this is equivalent to notary countersigned ?

About BetDick:
Bet=rate.
Dick=penis
?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You are joker. :D
The vast majority of people who wins disputes during a court process have to sign what we call a 'non-disclosure agreement', which is a legal document whereby the bookmaker can sue the person if they reveal any details of their case and any payment settlement in public. This means I can only give you an example loosely based on a case.
In Russia, the information is more transparent.
Knowing the data of the claimant (player) and the defendant (bookmaker), you can find all the data of lawsuits between them through Google.
But in Russia, a small number of players win court processes.
The reason - is corruption between courts and bookmakers.
:|

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Re: Have you won a dispute with a bookmaker?

Post by Jimmy Justice » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:12 am

You mean - court process only in UK ? Yes.
'non-disclosure agreement' - determined by the laws only of the UK ? Many countries have these, but yes.
Elizabeth - is UK citizen ? Yes.
this is equivalent to notary countersigned ? Yes.

JJ

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