Account closures and restrictions

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Account closures and restrictions

Post by Jimmy Justice » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:25 pm

We don't really need to introduce this topic.

This issue has never been worse in the whole history of legal bookmaking. Bookies tell us that this only occurs rarely, and only to criminals and professional punters. You and we know this is rubbish.

Please post your experiences here and PLEASE DO attach all the correspondence you have proving your case. We want to see pictures of refused bets, screen grabs of accounts closed after a few bets, especially if these accounts only contain small bets, e.g. £50.00 and under. We know this is not always easy when companies lock you out of your account without telling you. But, do insist your account is reopened to obtain your records. Every bookie can reopen access to an account, but still stop you betting, so they have no good reason for not allowing access. It is your personal data and under data protection legislation, except for criminal reasons, it is very unlikely a bookie can refuse this request. If they do, contact the 'Information Commissioner's Office' and you will probably find access is granted very quickly.

We are interested in any form of account restriction as well as closures.

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by elisrugby11 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:10 am

hi, not sure how to use this site at the moment , but here goes, ive been a gambler since school days over 40 years now and was a complete mug, but in last few years have become more disciplined etc and especially through betfair i admit i have arbed { SORRY]but now i mainly bet and i trade.(SEE MY LETTER to vic chandler few years backon betfair forum.last post 20 feb 2014, worth a read ) anyway my bet 365 is restricted to winning max 20 quid, cant have there 50 quid in play soccer offer, but still get the c4 offer which is great, boyles waste of space , i love ante post betting but when they said sp only , complete waste of time. p powers restricted to peanuts no offers and no best odds g, all i did was take advantage of their soccer offers and money back 2nd as they were bombarding my emails with them. worse thing about this lot was when i backed a cricket match with them in play at 4/1 i think , bet was accepted no problem, few hours later they changed the bet without telling me to 7/4 if my memory is right, surely should be allowed to do that. corals losing acct closed. sky only opened few months back nice footy offer plus 5 quid back every sunday, lost loads with them then last week offers stopped plus b o g. hills the same restricted to peanuts, victor see the letter but closed down, stan james closed down after about 20/ 25 years with them , betfred again peanuts no offers no bog.sportsbook on betfair :lol: by the way i hardly ever followed pricewise. IN the shops corals take ages to phone bets through even for a tenner, hills not bad , betfred great in my local shop. good luck to you all and its great what justiceforpunters is doing.

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by fdrebin » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:13 pm

Once again, I hate bookmakers!

Im now a pro gambler, worked in tbe industry for 13 years, but always a punter at heart.
Haven't been able to bet under my own name for nearly a year, I'm close to running out of friends to open me accounts.

The new kids on the block are a waste of space, unibet, boyles, sky, winner n betway, although the rest are only marginally better, Hills the best, but still not good.
More corrupt than FIFA for me.
You don't even have to have winning accounts anymore, just any early morning Horse racing business, then ur on ur way, its disgusting.
Willing to private message with anyone.
I also had an input into recent radio 5 programme re bet acceptance.

Fdrebin

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by Jimmy Justice » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:36 pm

Once again thanks. You explain the present situation 'smack-on'. Licensing is a joke and despite many attempts the UK Gambling Commission are refusing to do anything. They have even refused to communicate with the people who got over 3000 people to sign a petition about restrictions and closures. Please do tell your MP and try to get him or her to write to the CEO asking why they are refusing to have an appropriate discussion with the representatives of 3000+ voters. They will quote the law, i.e. bookies can trade with who they want, so long as they don't infringe discrimination laws. But this is not the point. The UKGC can make their own laws as part of licensing, i.e. if a bookie won't lay a risk of at least £500.00 to all, they won't get a licence or another licence at review.

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by Jimmy Justice » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:43 pm

Hi elisrugby11

May I apologise? We've been so busy developing the website getting ready for an official launch next week, we missed your forum post.
Many thanks for your contribution and do come back and join in at a later date. We have been getting 50-75 visitors to the website per day despite there being no publicity, so hopefully after next week there should be lots of interest.

JJ

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by mick » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:21 am

Hi JJ and all i saw mention of this site on the BF forum yesterday.I think its a good idea to create a platform to enable the increasing numbers of us backers hit by these restrictions to share our experiences so hope that many reg and post. Currently i feel a little burnt out posting wise as since the HRB forum was started last Nov i have been doing lots of.

I seldom do so on the BF forum because i find anger when a minority of the members indulge in ignorant and abusive response but as it is the biggest racing forum a few weeks ago i posted advocating that we support the HBF who had already identified account restrictions as the prime punter concern.Perhaps predictably some of the brave keyboard warriors offered ignorance as opposed to constructive argument ironic that the bookmakers would have been pleased to witness this as it increases the chance that people will stop posting on the subject.

The HRB..........Any progress will be slow and this causes frustration but recent insights i have gleaned suggest that already the volunteers involved are feeling likewise.Prior to the start the BHA informed them that little of their free time would be needed yet already they find this is not the case.Indirectly we backers fund the BHA and its clear that by paying expenses only for a HBF monthly meeting they seek to do this on the cheap.

The BHA have a very large budget and there is a strong case for them employing at least one full time salaried staff to look out for our interests.I have contacted them about this and of course this will make no difference but if many of us did it might.Likewise our MPs.This is the problem we have no one to help us work collectively if we did then changes could be "encouraged" perhaps this site and Jimmy Justice will enable i hope so because like you guys i am fed up with being treated like a villain by The Bookmakers just because i dare to turn a profit (Or even appear that i might do so).

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by Jimmy Justice » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:48 am

Our attitude is; we encourage help from anyone. While punters are split and failing to support others who campaign; the bookmakers win and crucially any government and their civil servants will not listen. Until punters campaign as a coherent group those in power will not listen, hence one of our Charter aims being the establishment of an All Party Parliamentary Group. The gambling corporations have one, so why not the punter? The one thing bookmakers are not, is stupid. They can afford to employ and pay third parties who are very, very bright and powerful, but the punter has one great advantage in the case of MPs, thus power; there are millions of votes held by punters, so as we point out on the site, get writing to MPs, go to their surgeries, tell them about how fixed odds betting terminals are taking money away from their communities and how sports gamblers are not allowed to win. They don't know about this and will be amazed when you tell them.

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by mick » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:03 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/j ... ers-in-nsw

I note in the above "after hundreds of punters complained" I suspect that there are now thousands of UK backers currently being restricted.If we work together we might enable same.

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by Jimmy Justice » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:36 pm

Thanks for the link. Do note that it is 2k Ausdollars at the equivalent of Cheltenham, so 1K sterling and unlike the Coral (is it 5K) in shops (23p online), they can't choose the races to do this on. It is all races.

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Re: Account closures and restrictions

Post by pawras » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:51 pm

here's the Dr John letter I've recently received from Bet365. I've been a customer for several years and in that time I bet I put 6 figures through their books.

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