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Parliament debate

Post by mick » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:26 am

Parliament debate with Simon Rowlands as a speaker
http://www.apbgg.org/future-meetings.html

JFP Representatives will be attending. :)

Hi Mick

Thanks, I'm going.

I got one of our members who lives in Philip Davies' constituency to go and see him at his local MP clinic. Philip Davies promotes bookies all the time in parliament and is the Chair of the APPG. Amazingly, he said he agreed that our member had been treated appalling (average bet £12, loads of accounts restricted) and promised he would set this up.

Our member is going as well.

Feel free to post the url ink and my reply on the public forum.

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by Jimmy Justice » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:12 am

Should be interesting this. There's even talk of Bruce Millington from the Racing Post being there to speak as well. If you live in or near London see if you can get an invite.

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by mick » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:03 am

Jimmy Justice wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:12 am
Should be interesting this. There's even talk of Bruce Millington from the Racing Post being there to speak as well.
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Is that Guardian journalist aware because some unbiased press coverage might prove helpful.

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by Jimmy Justice » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:59 am

I would think both Greg Wood and Chris Cook are aware, but I'll remind them.

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by mick » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:36 am

Hi Jim having just read the BS offered by the Skybet CEO ,i would find interest in reading your thoughts on the "Debate".

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by Jimmy Justice » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:36 am

https://justiceforpunters.org/are-bookm ... -accounts/

I've taken the line of what happened overall and where next. Important day for a number of reasons.

I have massive issues with the data quoted by Mr Flint, especially his claim that 25% of their customers made a profit last year, however it is impossible to challenge the data as only he has access to it. Based on other figures he quoted the 25% means just over 250,000 customers made a profit last year. Like I say, I can't prove anything, but I find that difficult to believe.

JJ

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by mick » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:51 am

Cheers Jim have just read your link.Thanks for J4P efforts and the report on what was said.The ripple spreads.

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by Jimmy Justice » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:59 am

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... __says_MP/

This was exactly my impression. The ball is rolling in the corridors of power. I can't name him, but one of our volunteers went to meet Philip Davies MP at his local surgery and this meeting motivated the MP to organise the seminar.

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by mick » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:29 am

Cheers for the link Jim ,finally the message starts to grow.I read that there are four million active UK horse racing punters.The majority of those will not be affected by restrictions,but i am saying to all beware of what might await you because when it happens it is not a positive experience.

I feel that we members of JFP should also be attempting to put this message across wherever we are able to,because punter indifference or apathy plays a part in enabling some Bookmakers to continue doing as they please.But if enough of us come together and act as one then this will increase the chance of changes in the law which i now suspect will be the only way to get the job done.

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Re: Parliament debate

Post by Jimmy Justice » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:44 am

All agreed Mick.

Everyone may be interested in these links also:

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... __says_MP/

This was my impression of the seminar. Get in touch with your MPs to lobby mentioning this link. Details of how how to contact your MP are here: https://justiceforpunters.org/find-your ... tact-them/ Make your point robustly, but not abusively that what bookmakers are doing is unfair and even the All Party Parliamentary Group that supports the industry agrees. It shows how bad things have become when an industry 'wines and dines' you, but you still come out against them.

The following is massive and you should contribute: http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/ne ... -open.aspx It has taken us 30 months of discusson with the Gambling Commission and the regular provision of evidence of injustice to get them to consider drawing up new licensing guidelines for gambling companies in all these areas. The GC now knows that the industry will not change without force. They've given the industry loads of chances and they've turned everyone down, so this is all about bringing in fines and other sanctions.

It's up to you guys whether you bother to contribute to both issues or not. If you do; great. If you don't you'll possibly waste the hard, voluntary work of 30 months that some of us have put in.

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